Seth Thomas 124 (repair hints)

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Regulation on the Seth Thomas 124:turn the regulator to the left for slower and turn the regulator to the right to make the clock run faster. 1 turn = 2 1/2 minutes per day.The seth thomas 124 must be checked at 12 and 1 o’clock because the hour snail will force against the rack and the snail will sometimes be moved when the clock runs down if the customer forces the hands ahead before the strike finishes lifting the rack. The seth thomas 124 is a westminster chime mechanism with mainsprings wrapped in barrels attached to the front plate (by rivets or screws). The gear teeth on this mechanism are shaped slightly different than on most older clocks. The number 2 wheel time , in my opinion , is the achilles heel of this clock. When overhauling one of these pay very close attention to the brass gear; specifically the gear teeth . If these teeth are worn it will be necessary to turn the wheel over or replace it. That is it. This problem will have to be addressed, or the clock will not work. The clock will either not keep time, or will stop inconsistently, or will exhibit both of these problems. Also be prepared to turn the main wheels if the teeth are worn. The self correct lever on the front plate must be absolutely free to drop. Do not get any oil behind this lever , or the mechanism will not work. The oil will keep the lever from dropping freely.and the chime sequence will not correct. There are 2 small washers that fit on the movement posts on the bottom. The purpose of these washers is to compensate for the thickness of the plate on the upper part or the mechanism. Do not omit these washers; if they aren’t there , they should be. They need to be the same thickness as the top plate. The shutoff lever on the inside of the plate will break if you try to bend it. Do not try to bend that lever; it is hard brass. If that lever is broken , it will take a lot longer to fix than simply opening up the plates and moving the gears until they are in the correct position . The swing on the pendulum is normally quite excessive, an arc of 2 inches in not uncommon. The pendulum is quite heavy (2 ¾ oz. usually). If the pendulum arc is not within this parameter, it is very likely that there are problems that haven’t been discovered. On this mechanism , the depth of the gears in the time train is critical , partially because there is one extra gear at compared to other 8 day westminster chime clocks,and partially because the mainspring is not of excessive strength. The pivots on these clocks are not plated and the bushings tend to be prone to wear. The hammers will tend to bounce on most of these mechanisms. Somewhat thick grease (mainspring lube, for example) will help some. Trial and error adjustment of the hammers will also help. Most of the 124 mechanisms have a chime/silent device, that lifts the first 4 hammers so no chime sounds but there will be gear noise, and the strike will still sound in most cases. Be sure to check the strike trip lever that is activated by the large pin on the front of the chime sequence cam. It should lift the strike lock lever enough to clear the rack and allow the rack to fall and the 5th wheel the rotate HALFWAY around to the lock lever which should get enough travel so that the strike hammer waits long enough to allow for the strike to sound like a separate sequence from the chime. Total suspension length is 3.970 inches. Another suspension was measured that was .004 inches strong by .186 inches wide with a suspension wire diameter of .075 inches. Total suspension length is 3.970 inches . The mainsprings on these measure : chime: .750 inches wide by 72 inches long by .015 inches strong ; strike : .014 inches strong by .687 inches wide by 53 inches long ; time .014 inches strong by .687 inches wide by 75 inches long.
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